Comments on: Christopher Hitchens And That Dubious Iran ‘Quote’ https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/ Home of Stephen Knight and The #GSPodcast Wed, 14 Feb 2018 17:01:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.4 By: Ben https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/#comment-5991 Tue, 24 May 2016 21:18:13 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=3399#comment-5991 If you do, please include the photos themselves. Looking forward to it!

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By: PZ Myers Is Still A Liar | Godless Spellchecker's Blog https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/#comment-4861 Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:51:52 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=3399#comment-4861 […] of Christopher Hitchens presumably saying some awful things. Coincidentally, earlier this month I reported that Richard Seymour attributed the following quote to Christopher Hitchens in his dreadful book […]

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By: Michael Lyons https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/#comment-4791 Sun, 10 Jan 2016 12:52:04 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=3399#comment-4791 So, having spent the last few days trawling through YouTube and the Internet, I have been unable to find any evidence of Christopher Hitchens, or anyone else for that matter, uttering the phrase “as for that benighted country …” prior to 2012. In 2012, Richard Seymour published Unhitched and the number of people quoting this phrase then mushrooms, invariably using it to claim Hitchens was a genocidal maniac.
My take on this is that the conference Tariq Ali quoted in his email is the FFRF conference held in Madison, Wisconsin on 13 October 2007. This is the conference PZ Myers attended, and afterwards stated that Hitchens had proposed genocide, or at least wholesale execution of the population of the Moslem world. Tariq Ali was in Madison on 17 October 2007, which is consistent with being in Madison a week after the speech as per his email. There is a 76 minute video on YouTube covering all of Hitchens speech. At no time does he say “as for that benighted country …”.
It might be worth emailing Tariq Ali again to confirm if he was advised of what Hitchens said in October 2007 and, if not, could he be more precise regarding dates. Considering he could accurately recall what Christopher Hitchens said at a conference he didn’t even attend, recalling the date should be a doddle.

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By: Michael Lyons https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/#comment-4785 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 06:41:13 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=3399#comment-4785 I have been searching through numerous youtube videos of Christopher Hitchens relating to Iran dating back as far as the 1980s. At no time did I find him using the phrase that has been attributed to him. The general thrust of his discussions was a great dislike of the Iranian authorities and a great respect for the Iranian people.

It seems to me that either somebody who attended the alleged speech accurately related this particular phrase to Tariq Ali a week after the event, who then decided to sit on it for several years before accurately relating it to Richard Seymour for publication, OR they have misconstrued Christopher’s words. Considering Hitchens respect and hopes for the Iranian people, I favour the latter.

It is particularly concerning that Tariq Ali chose not to go public with the statement while Christopher Hitchens was alive and in a position to defend himself.

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By: Matthew Mendell https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/#comment-4783 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 03:43:56 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=3399#comment-4783 Stephen, you’re a rockstar. Great work.

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By: Oscar https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/#comment-4781 Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:22:56 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=3399#comment-4781 “Shocked even the conservatives in the audience.” He is such a dogmatic simpleton.

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By: Thomas https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/#comment-4776 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 16:37:02 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=3399#comment-4776 Hi Stephen,

thank you for beeing so dilligent, as always. I would just like to throw in my 2 cents into the ring on this matter. For those unfamiliar with Mr. Hitens’s opinions on foreign policy in general and on Iran in particular, might I suggest a very interesting exchange with George Packer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8eHlWJbTuI or a short speech, for those with things to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBVQjivS08

Now I will make a bold statement: Considering his contempt for totalitarian regimes, and his sympathy and alliegence to it’s victims I think it is justified to assume, that this is a simple matter of misquotation (not withstanding everything you pointed out already).

If he ever said anything like that, which I think i quite possible – it was almost certainly: “As for that benighted regime, I wouldn’t shed a tear if it was wiped off the face of this earth.” Which of course would mean something else entirely, or at any rate would not imply genocide.

And this is no to say, that one has to agree with his opinions on how to get rid of such a regime. And I find it boring, tiresome and annoying, that nowdays one must apparently always include this nifty caveat, when making a point of principle to avoid trolls.

Sorry for the overlong post, but there it is.

Keep doing what you are doing, I very much enjoy and appreciate your Podcast.

Greetings from Wroclaw!

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By: Paul Perrea https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/#comment-4775 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 14:30:31 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=3399#comment-4775 Thanks, Great Research.

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By: theangryfatman https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/#comment-4774 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 13:30:57 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=3399#comment-4774 Great work Stephen, you have got me back as a follower. It’s sad to see the damage that the hivemind group FTB is doing, PZ and CJ helping the religious to beat down atheists

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By: Albert Moessmer https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/01/christopher-hitchens-and-that-dubious-iran-quote/#comment-4773 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:54:08 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=3399#comment-4773 Great work, Stephen! Thanks!

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