Comments on: Taking The Myth – 12 Jan Edition – Cologne

By: Rose Somer

Rose Somer — Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:47:45 +0000

According to Sunny Hundal twitter site 24 January 2016 The Muslimstern Facebook page called on German authorities to ban alcohol which “leads to traffic accidents violence and rapes” (translation from German) claiming that Cologne women brought the attacks on themselves by throwing themselves like naked antelopes in front of a lion (assuming they had been drinking and this rendered them into “naked antelopes” – translation from German)
Also my point :
Recently tho German police say of the 58 people actually charged for theft or sexual crimes in Cologne (out of about 1000 in total offences reported) only about 18 were refugees from Syria (rest from Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria) and only a few of these were “sexual assault”

By: Stephen Knight

Stephen Knight — Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:53:22 +0000

I’m simply saying these teachings towards women play no small part in a person’s general attitude to, or treatment of them.

By: blabangida

blabangida — Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:47:26 +0000

Thats indirect as far as I’m concerned.

You will find Islamic scripture/leadership saying its OK to rape/beat your wife, or to rape/sell sex slaves, or to dicriminate based on gender for inheritance. You won’t find any such thing for fondling random strangers.

By: Stephen Knight

Stephen Knight — Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:58:47 +0000

Of course it’s not indirect. Women are considered subservient/less than men in Islam & more or less property. Not to mention the male entitlement/honour that runs through the doctrine. There’s a direct link between scripture and attitudes towards women here.

Also, if these men in Rotherham and Rochdale are British, what ‘culture’ could you possibly be referring to if not ‘Islamic’?

By: blabangida

blabangida — Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:53:38 +0000

Replace “countries” with “cultures” if you like. We have gender segregation in Mosques and other Islamic establishments in the UK, but still no “deviant doctrine” as such.

So the link to Islam is indirect at best, same in Cologne.

By: Stephen Knight

Stephen Knight — Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:10:26 +0000

I would imagine the perpetrators in Rotherham and Rochdale were British, so the lack of equality in ‘so-called Muslim countries’ doesn’t really wash.

By: blabangida

blabangida — Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:58:27 +0000

I don’t think the Cologne saga, or similar events in Stockholm (or Rochdale, Rotherham etc.) should be considered as religiously inspired.

It can’t be helped by a lack of gender equality in so-called Muslim countries, and that may be Islamically inspired, but I’ve never seen a sermon or scripture on foreigner fondling.

By: Steven Bower

Steven Bower — Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:32:16 +0000

…or ‘I wouldn’t shed a tear’.

By: Steven Bower

Steven Bower — Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:09:57 +0000

Re the bogus Hitchens quote, quite apart from any other considerations, Hitchens would never have used the lazy cliche ‘wipe off the face of the Earth’.

By: Dermot C

Dermot C — Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:33:24 +0000

Just because it’s in The Telegraph doesn’t mean it’s not true – Orwell.