Comments on: Demos’ Flawed research Into ‘Islamophobia’ On Twitter

By: Michael Nugent Tackles @Demos’ ‘Islamophobia’ Report | Godless Spellchecker's Blog

Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:14:44 +0000

[…] week, I reported on the flawed research into online ‘Islamophobia’ carried out by the think tank ‘Demos’. The […]

By: Denash Khan

Denash Khan — Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:03:03 +0000

Another great article Steven, it amazes me how far liberal organisations and western liberal media will go to sugarcoat and protect a hateful theocracy. This is the real agenda behind creating this faulshood of Islamophobia.
Need to release some steam now and watch a Pat Condell responce on Islamophobia.

Link http://youtu.be/RfJ6FpabknY

Thanks

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 23:53:19 +0000

They used, yet again, Ajamal Maroor, whose only purpose is defence of the faith. So he made a few suggestions. 1. Stop referring to “Islamic” extremists as “Islamic” and call them criminals. 2. Stop doing “Islamophobia”, without a definition of course. In fact, it was “Stop everything” with him. Pretty much stop challenge and criticism.
Victoria did ask the Demos representative what criteria was used to determine an “Islamophobic” tweet. The answer was about setting up and “training” algorithms, ie putting their own definition into artificial intelligence, but that seemed to pass Victoria by, so they moved on. It was accepted too easily.
Astonishingly, Victoria asked the Demos rep, “Is there a link to the EU referendum vote, or not,” which was basically a leading question for the answer of “yes” which she got. The Demos rep at 1:20:30 said something regarding Islamophobia and legitimate criticism of Islam and what is in people’s minds, that passed me by, even on rewinding and listening three times. Maybe someone can help me out on what he was getting at.
Finally, Ajmal Masroor insists he is for “full” integration in this society. This from a man who has publicly called secularism “evil” and that “Islam is the answer”. Also, which might sound trite, but is not, has so far this year, via Facebook, told his followers not to get involved in Valentine’s Day, Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, and given restrictions on attending birthday parties. The angle he uses is always against Western practices, as well as looking for religious sources in all I mention. If they are there, they are out of bounds. This to me, is not encouraging integration. If people don’t want to bother with eg Valentine’s Day, that is up to them, but to push not getting involved in any way because of a religious angle, is going that one step further that nutty clerics do on Youtube. Sometimes I worry about his self-awareness.

Overall, once again the Victoria Live program handles something with a huge bias, with hardly any challenge.

By: Russell Burn

Russell Burn — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 19:26:50 +0000

Can I suggest watching the whole discussion on Victoria’s Thursday morning show? Available on BBC iplayer for another 24 days maybe. They were discussing how to deal with Islamophobia : not sure I believe what I heard , being distracted , must check back on it soon.

By: Dermot O'Sullivan

Dermot O'Sullivan — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:31:26 +0000

Thanks for the link, Madden. I’m moderately proud to note that I came across SOAS’s awful course outlines independently of this when I was researching Suliman Gani.

Oof, I see that the SOAS Islamic Society had the ubiquitous Prof. David Miller from Bath University to speak. I predict that Craig Considine will be invited by some British Islamic Soc soon.

By: Madden

Madden — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:24:41 +0000

SOAS have a reputation for hosting extremists and were even called out by David Cameron for doing so (http://hurryupharry.org/2015/11/06/soas-school-for-hate-and-terror/). A glance at that woman’s Twitter shows she praises CAGE, and makes other idiotic remarks like finding equivalence between Sam Harris and Britain First.

Genuinely depressing how many of these people get platforms on major news networks to peddle ‘Islamophobia’ virtually always unchallenged without ever having their own beliefs and past history challenged. Someone like Catrin Nye is never going to probe this woman on SOAS’ links to extremism or her praise of Moazzam Begg for instance.

By: pilky

pilky — Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:19:07 +0000

I don’t think there’s a problem with admitting you have a issues with both the ideology and it’s followers.

For example, I have a problem with Nazism and Nazis.
I wouldn’t tolerate a more moderate version of Nazism, nor would I tolerate a moderate Nazi.

I’m under the impression that most Muslims don’t understand how dangerous and discriminative their religion is, therefore, my problem with them is that they would do anything on earth to defend an idea that they are ignorant of.

My problem with Muslims who do have good understanding of their religion and how destructive it is (and continue to practice), is that they most likely support the idea of Islam dominating the world.

Open criticism of Islam, and the way a disproportionate amount of Muslims behave (compared to followers of other ideologies) is key to tackling it.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:25:14 +0000

This is the one I refer to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vtVEwbbvJI&feature=youtu.be

Also had a to and fro with Bonnie Greer on Twit. She stands by saying the lady was racially abused.
And it seems she thinks that because Catrin Nye called it “Islamophobia” she agrees (without Nye getting involved in the conversation).
That is really trite and worrying for a lady who has links to education and is used by media for opinion.
A reporter says it’s Islamophobia, so it is, and not only that, it’s also racial abuse, which the reporter never said.

By: Stephen Knight

Stephen Knight — Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:40:52 +0000

Do you have a link to the fuller video?

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:39:43 +0000

Just a secondary thought. I’ve watched the whole video and more conversation was had. Nye and the lady then come away, and both refer to the man as an “Islamophobe”, broadcast presumably to the nation. Can he sue for that? I’d say yes, and if it went to court, who defines what it means? What exactly might happen with that?