Comments on: Why We Need ‘The Real Housewives Of ISIS’ https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/ Home of Stephen Knight and The #GSPodcast Mon, 02 Mar 2020 17:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.9 By: Noel Gallagher Names The Problem and Larry David Gets A Fatwa | Godless Spellchecker's Blog https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/#comment-8022 Thu, 19 Oct 2017 19:44:31 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=4774#comment-8022 […] thought we’d actually made some progress on this score when the BBC ran a comedy sketch called ‘The Real Housewives of ISIS’. Concepts such as suicide bombings and jihadi brides were beautifully lampooned. No issue there […]

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By: Skilbey https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/#comment-7409 Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:23:25 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=4774#comment-7409 Bit late to the party on this one…
My main concern is that the piece seems to be taking the piss out of the young girls, not ISIS or anyone else with any power, which is what good satire should, as far as I’m concerned, be all about.
It’s funny, but I don’t think we should get too excited about something that isn’t actually that brave.

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By: My East Coast Radio Discussion On #RealHousewivesOfISIS | Godless Spellchecker's Blog https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/#comment-7408 Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:07:57 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=4774#comment-7408 […] recently wrote about the outrage surrounding the BBC comedy sketch show ‘Revolting’ – specifically their […]

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By: C Roberts https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/#comment-7407 Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:38:13 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=4774#comment-7407 This is fabulous, and as to those claiming it wasn’t “thought provoking” or were offended by “cheap stereotypes” and the like, so what? The point isn’t whether it was good or not (although I happened to quite like it, “cheap stereotypes” and all), the point is that it is long since time to normalize public criticism of both Islam and Isis (including satire, cartoons, and whatever else anyone damn well want to do). That this sort of speech particularly bothers totalitarian theocrats is the delicious frosting on this wonderful cake.

Free speech, insulting or not, injuring feelings or not, intelligent or not, stereotypical or not, is the fundamental pillar of Western democracy and our many freedoms. Sure, there are limits as to what one can say or print about an individual person (particularly a private individual versus a public figure), and limits when the line is crossed into inciting violence, but otherwise, risking being offended or insulted by something in the press is one of the costs of living in a free society.

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By: WeeBaldie https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/#comment-7406 Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:47:37 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=4774#comment-7406 Totalitarian theocrats – Islamic, Christian or whatever – HATE being mocked because laughter punctures their infallible self-image. Keep it up!

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By: Ken Phelps https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/#comment-7403 Sat, 07 Jan 2017 00:42:45 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=4774#comment-7403 Perhaps it doesn’t provoke much thought for you. As Mencken said though, “One horse-laugh is worth ten-thousand syllogisms.” The value in this is for people who are not so well informed, and who accept ideas based on whatever general emotional feeling they sense around them. The more contact malleable minds have with the idea that Islam is a cartoonishly ignorant set of beliefs, the better.

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By: bootjangler1 https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/#comment-7402 Fri, 06 Jan 2017 23:58:22 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=4774#comment-7402 An interesting output to this has been who has moaned and who hasn’t (outside of subjective humour).

Focusing on the disparaging, here and there (BBC Two Facebook, BBC Asian Facebook, Telegraph Facebook), guests on radio discussions, there have been comments made, such as:

“They are demonising Islamic values”
This person didn’t explain what he meant, so I’m not sure which “values” depicted in the sketch, he was miffed at.

“Why does it have to be Muslims? Couldn’t the wives be non-Muslims with Western names?”
I can only suspect this person wants all Islamic refs as well as Asian name refs removed through embarrassment.
Another (it might have been this one) asked why they couldn’t be Jewish.

“Why does it have to be women, acting like Muslim women? Couldn’t they use men, perhaps gay ones?”
This was the same poster as above who obviously missed that it was a parody not only of ISIS, but the “Real Housewives of…” franchise. She also implied that they *are* behaving like Muslim women.

“This is Islamophobic”
This was quite a popular complaint, generally without explanation.

“It was sexist because they were only women (missed parody title point again), and they only talked of husbands”.
Missing the point again.

“I liked Father Ted, because (cue silly analysis of non-stereotypes on an island), but this was stereotyping”
That was Lauren Booth on the radio. It’s always curious that when asked, they always like Father Ted and can find reasons (Ansar did the very same during the Jesus & Mo T-shirt/Nawaz thing), while gnashing their teeth about *anything* Muslim/Islam.

And many more. All I take from the disparaging comments is that the sketch was linked to Muslims. never mind that it was about ISIS. It didn’t seem to matter. Vague recollections of the whole program had sketches parodying rich Tory MPs, UKIP voters, Company Tax avoiders, and quite a lot else. Perhaps these people ought to be reminded that anyone connected with all of the others parodied have not made one peep of criticism or annoyance. But I reckon that wouldn’t matter one jot.

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By: A Sketch Combining The Real Housewives & ISIS Provokes Internet Outrage – VIPortal Fashion https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/#comment-7400 Fri, 06 Jan 2017 04:01:43 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=4774#comment-7400 […] others defend the pastiche for being bold. Already, the website gspellchecker.com has posted an opinion editorial titled “Why We Need The Real Housewives Of […]

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By: Shmeggley (@shmeggley) https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/#comment-7399 Fri, 06 Jan 2017 01:08:30 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=4774#comment-7399 The offensive thing here is not that it lays bare an uncomfortable truth, but that it’s just going for cheap laughs at crude stereotypes. It’s amusing, but not at all insightful.

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By: Coel https://www.gspellchecker.com/2017/01/why-we-need-the-real-housewives-of-isis/#comment-7398 Thu, 05 Jan 2017 20:44:21 +0000 https://www.gspellchecker.com/?p=4774#comment-7398 Sure, there is no lack of criticism of Islam on the internet, but there is a serious lack of it in mainstream media, which is why this by the BBC is notable.

And yes, this is a parody of ISIS, but thereby it is *also* a parody of Islam, since ISIS is an extreme version of Islam.

And will Muslims take offense? Well, if they do then excellent! We need to maintain the principle that criticising ideas in a way that can cause offense is an entirely acceptable and routine thing to do. It is entirely normal to criticise political parties and their policies in ways that could cause offense, if their supporters chose to take offense, Ditto other idea systems such as capitalism, socialism, fascism, communism or whatever. Religion, especially Islam, should be no different. We need a world where mainstream media regularly publish things that cause offense to the hair-trigger offense-takers in the Islamic world.

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