Taking The Myth – 10 Nov 2016 Election Edition

This week on Taking The Myth, Stephen Knight (@Gspellchecker) and Iram Ramzan (@Iram_Ramzan) discuss the big topics. We talk about newly elected President Trump, how we got there and what it means for the future. We also update you on the Louis Smith saga, discuss national pride and gender segregation and much, much more!

Recorded on Wed 9th November 2016.

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  • Positive things about Trump Presidency: Excellent editions of Have I Got News For You.
    Also, in the news was his website had removed the “ban Muslims” thing and later that it had been replaced. It may have been re-worded (I didn’t see the original statement on the site) in referring to immigrants from known areas that have promoted and produced extremists. But more importantly, it states to: “Establish a Commission on Radical Islam to identify and explain to the American public the core convictions and beliefs of Radical Islam, to identify the warning signs of radicalization, and to expose the networks in our society that support radicalization.”
    I can’t argue with that last point. It sounds like “doing something” and recognising and approaching a problem in an honest way, which is more than Obama ever did.
    I wonder how Trump would have answered that question in Parliament about the death threats to Louis Smith? Theresa May was a weak idiot, which worried me.
    Some commentators say he wouldn’t be as quick to leap into mid-east conflict as previous Presidents.
    Negative things: No political experience, not sure of friendship with Putin, possibly banning abortion, propping up gun ownership,
    Meanwhile, so many on Question Time seem to be concerned about his pussy-grabbing antics. One audience member even suggested that May and Merkel should ask him why he said it. Why? What will that achieve, prove or satisfy?

  • It’s not about being proud of being black or gay when terms like that are used. It’s a response to centuries of oppression, and societies opinion that you should be ashamed of being those things. Pride is the opposite of shame. Saying white pride comes across as a mockery of terms like black pride, or gay pride which again aren’t people saying they are proud of those accidents of birth, simply they aren’t, despite historical societal oppression ashamed of them.

    • Yes, I understand that. I was talking (and mentioned) specifically about celebrating ‘culture’ for example. Any attempts to do this in the context of being white can come across as a little sinister. Probably White guilt plays a part in this for exactly the reasons you have rightly noted.

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